Friday, July 20, 2012


Everybody knows about the troubles in Syria, Yemen, Egypt, Libya, Iran, Somalia... and other member states of the Arab League... and Iran, which is not part of the League... All together, there is a world of hurt for people in those nations; and horrible suffering in other African nations where famine hangs like a plague over whole regions... and now today comes news that a young fellow who graduated from high school just a few years ago just up the road from where I live is the mass murderer in a Colorado theater massacre. The suffering seems unending. The violence is inextricable. Solutions are elusive.  We are left to wonder what is the common thread running through conflicts in all of the world’s troubled places.
I’ve tried to talk myself out of a conclusion that I really would like to avoid... one that  I don’t like; but it’s unavoidable that among all the causes of conflict in communities, from the smallest local cultural group all the way out to the whole world community including all of the almost seven billion of us, religion tops the list of reasons people don’t get along.  It’s difficult to avoid seeing that religion is the obvious common aggravation, the most common cause of dissent, the most common fulcrum on which community loathing and anger become unbalanced and erupt in violence.  How can I forget hearing one of my uncles, now long dead, say that “Niggers are just like mules... They don’t have souls.”  He was someone whose memory I am supposed to honor.   More recently a member of my extended family when asked whether she would rather have a child of hers be gay or dead answered quickly and firmly, “dead.”  My uncle was a deacon in his church.  My relative who would rather see her child dead than gay is active in her church.  I could go on with examples, but that’s not the point of this writing. 
I’ve been wondering, as have most other people of good faith (no reference this time to any organized religion), what might be a logical first step toward a saner, safer world... for everybody.  Outlawing religion was tried by Marxists, and clearly the ideology formed around an idea that “religion is the opiate of the people” was not the answer.  We all know the decades-long soviet disaster that resulted from that idea.  Anti-religion became a religion just as the new atheism for some people has become a religion to be defended. The atheist, like the Hardshell Baptist or fundamentalist Muslim, becomes entrenched in arguments and in defense of an idea to the extent that the denial of ideology becomes ideology.  My blog writing today isn’t a plea for somebody to “gimme that ole-time religion.”  It’s definitely not good enough for me. It is a plea for people who identify themselves as people of faith who are members of an identifiable religious group to ask some serious questions why they cannot get along with other people of faith.






5 comments:

Anonymous said...

Good morning, Jerral,

Back as far as there are recordings of events, there have been periods and incidents of hate and bad attitudes and actions committed in the name of one's religion. One has only to remember the Inquisition and actions of the Crusades to observe the perversion of religious teachings.

"Why can't we get along?" Indeed, we should respect those of religions different than our own. The problem with that sometimes is the actions of other religions. As an example, I have a great deal of difficulty with Islam, founded by a man who made all the rules by his own standards, some good, some not so much. The treatment of women is but one of countless examples of questionable justice, in my observation. And God help you if you are gay! After 9/11 and the reports of muslim clergy preaching violence from their pulpits, I have lost a lot of respect for that religion. I view it as a false one, and I don't trust it. I am also cautious about muslims based on their practices, attitudes, and ideology. Within Islam, they strive to kill each other if one is from a different sect of that faith. People can't even get along within that one faith. Locally, we have only to look at the many divisions within the Baptist denomination, and sometimes between denominations themselves.

I don't think Buddhism, Shintoism, and many other non/Judao-Christian denominations are "true" religions in the meaning of an actual relationship with the Almighty. But, at least in our country, I would fight to defend their right to exist, as long as they don't espouse to hurt other people not of their faith. As is often pointed out, there is good in most religions - It is the "bad" things many espouse that concern me.

I think in our country, at least, many faiths are coming together to do good in common cause: Feeding the poor, medical help for the needy, etc. This is good, and I am hopeful the spirit of good will prevail. I think Christianity has evolved to a better place than it was decades ago, one of more mutual cooperation and respect. Islam is one of the fastest growing religions right now, and I am hopeful that, as middle east people acquire more education, that they will adjust that faith to more humane practices or leave it behind. I am hopeful that Islamic influence in our country will be minimal.

Personally, I think the teachings of Christianity currently point to a better, more loving, atmosphere in our country and the world. As a faith, we are doing a lot of good world-wide. I am hopeful for the future.
Ron

Anonymous said...

Good morning, Jerral,

Back as far as there are recordings of events, there have been periods and incidents of hate and bad attitudes and actions committed in the name of one's religion. One has only to remember the Inquisition and actions of the Crusades to observe the perversion of religious teachings.

"Why can't we get along?" Indeed, we should respect those of religions different than our own. The problem with that sometimes is the actions of other religions. As an example, I have a great deal of difficulty with Islam, founded by a man who made all the rules by his own standards, some good, some not so much. The treatment of women is but one of countless examples of questionable justice, in my observation. And God help you if you are gay! After 9/11 and the reports of muslim clergy preaching violence from their pulpits, I have lost a lot of respect for that religion. I view it as a false one, and I don't trust it. I am also cautious about muslims based on their practices, attitudes, and ideology. Within Islam, they strive to kill each other if one is from a different sect of that faith. People can't even get along within that one faith. Locally, we have only to look at the many divisions within the Baptist denomination, and sometimes between denominations themselves.

I don't think Buddhism, Shintoism, and many other non/Judao-Christian denominations are "true" religions in the meaning of an actual relationship with the Almighty. But, at least in our country, I would fight to defend their right to exist, as long as they don't espouse to hurt other people not of their faith. As is often pointed out, there is good in most religions - It is the "bad" things many espouse that concern me.

I think in our country, at least, many faiths are coming together to do good in common cause: Feeding the poor, medical help for the needy, etc. This is good, and I am hopeful the spirit of good will prevail. I think Christianity has evolved to a better place than it was decades ago, one of more mutual cooperation and respect. Islam is one of the fastest growing religions right now, and I am hopeful that, as middle east people acquire more education, that they will adjust that faith to more humane practices or leave it behind. I am hopeful that Islamic influence in our country will be minimal.

Personally, I think the teachings of Christianity currently point to a better, more loving, atmosphere in our country and the world. As a faith, we are doing a lot of good world-wide. I am hopeful for the future.
Ron

Anonymous said...

Somehow I disagree with at least your wording in your last blog.
Religion really isn't at the heart of all misery & conflict. (Human Evil) Or why
humans don't get along.
I agree it seems to be a willing partner at times. I haven't formulated a coherent response.
Part of it is that I can shoot the following saying down myself.
That all religion is the cause of good in the world--like hospitals,
orphanages, trips for medical help to undeveloped parts of the world.
(Or religion contributes to humans getting along.)

Thus, human "wrongs" and "rights" are more complicated. Some might really be wrong wiring or
chemistry in the brain, some might be the survival instinct from evolution, etc.
Now how does power, pride, "me first," come into this? Let us not blame that on
religion per say. Then again, we humans want "easy" answers. Not complicated ones.
But we (that is some of us--ha ha) also have brains made for such complicated reasoning.
Believe it or nor even females at times can think!! We all feel too.

Your posted pictures are truely amazing of night on the bay. You are adding to the
beauty of the world.

Dorothy

Anonymous said...

Somehow I disagree with at least your wording in your last blog.
Religion really isn't at the heart of all misery & conflict. (Human Evil) Or why
humans don't get along.
I agree it seems to be a willing partner at times. I haven't formulated a coherent response.
Part of it is that I can shoot the following saying down myself.
That all religion is the cause of good in the world--like hospitals,
orphanages, trips for medical help to undeveloped parts of the world.
(Or religion contributes to humans getting along.)

Thus, human "wrongs" and "rights" are more complicated. Some might really be wrong wiring or
chemistry in the brain, some might be the survival instinct from evolution, etc.
Now how does power, pride, "me first," come into this? Let us not blame that on
religion per say. Then again, we humans want "easy" answers. Not complicated ones.
But we (that is some of us--ha ha) also have brains made for such complicated reasoning.
Believe it or nor even females at times can think!! We all feel too.

Your posted pictures are truely amazing of night on the bay. You are adding to the
beauty of the world.

Dorothy

Anonymous said...

Somehow I disagree with at least your wording in your last blog.
Religion really isn't at the heart of all misery & conflict. (Human Evil) Or why
humans don't get along.
I agree it seems to be a willing partner at times. I haven't formulated a coherent response.
Part of it is that I can shoot the following saying down myself.
That all religion is the cause of good in the world--like hospitals,
orphanages, trips for medical help to undeveloped parts of the world.
(Or religion contributes to humans getting along.)

Thus, human "wrongs" and "rights" are more complicated. Some might really be wrong wiring or
chemistry in the brain, some might be the survival instinct from evolution, etc.
Now how does power, pride, "me first," come into this? Let us not blame that on
religion per say. Then again, we humans want "easy" answers. Not complicated ones.
But we (that is some of us--ha ha) also have brains made for such complicated reasoning.
Believe it or nor even females at times can think!! We all feel too.

Your posted pictures are truely amazing of night on the bay. You are adding to the
beauty of the world.

Dorothy